Ex-NBA players turned talking heads J.J. Redick and Kendrick Perkins have a disagreement about back-to-back MVP Nikola Jokic.

Perk thinks he's a stat-padder who is favored by MVP voters because he is white.

Reddick thinks both those statements are false and inflammatory.

The two squared off this morning on First Take and it got pretty intense.

Check out the segment.

Kendrick Perkins vs JJ Reddick - Full Segment regarding Jokic, stat padding, mvp voting. (Warning: video contains heavy traces of nonsense and filibustering) pic.twitter.com/ekbXATT3PY

— n i k o l a e s t h e t i c (@nikolaesthetic) March 7, 2023

Jokic is the overwhelming favorite to win his third straight MVP this season.

Does he deserve it?